In Excess of $37,000 yearly cost per household for Green New Deal pushed by AOC (Joe Biden's climate change task force co-chairwoman) and co-sponsored

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Joe Biden has been involved in politics for more than 40 years. Can anybody name 2 or 3 things that Joe Biden has accomplished to help Americans most? Or, one thing?
Yes, everything that the US Senate has put into law was done by Joe Biden and his fellow senators over those 40 years (senators do not “do things on their own” as if to claim credit like Trump gloms credit), plus everything that Obama effected in joint operation with Obama, like the recovery of our economy that Trump has now reversed to destroy it.

Trump is the president and is ruining the country, Biden has not been in a postion yet to be the “commander in chief”, so any comparison of work done is a fake comparison
 
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Well when Biden was VP he sold the office to the highest bidder. He stole other peoples speeches. There are sexual allegations that he sexually assaulted a young lady in 1993. Which many people that have endorsed him believe that happen.
 
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Additional proof that a Trump economy would far exceed that of the poverty-creating Green New Deal Democrats:


The Trump administration has repealed 22 regulations for each new rule issued, cutting regulatory costs by more than $8 billion. In fact, federal regulations are now at their “lowest count since records began being kept in the mid-1970s.”

Small business owners are counting their blessings. For years, America’s most dedicated job creators — who account for two-thirds of all new U.S. jobs — have been drowning in red tape. According to a National Small Business Association (NSBA) survey, one-third of small business owners spend more than 80 hours a year meeting regulatory requirements. In their first year of operation, small business employers pay an average of $83,000 in regulatory costs just to remain compliant.

In the NSBA’s words: “The impact of regulatory burden cannot be overstated. More than one-third have held off on business investment due to uncertainty on a pending regulation, and more than half have held off on hiring a new employee due to regulatory burdens.”
Imagine if that $83,000 was going back into the U.S. economy. This is unacceptable. The more time and money job creators spend on regulatory compliance, the fewer resources they have to expand their business and increase hiring.


2019 records:

Overall Unemployment
At 3.5% unemployment is at the lowest level since the end of WWII

Minority Unemployment
Black unemployment was 5.4% in October, the lowest point ever recorded.
Hispanic unemployment its lowest point on record in September when it was 3.9%.

Stocks
401(k)s have been made great again, and in November best bull market ever.

Credit Scores
The average credit score increased to an all-time-high of 706 in 2019, signaling that the American public is not struggling to keep up with debt payments (as you’d expect at an economy at full employment). Household debt payments as a percentage of disposable income are at the lowest level since the St. Louis Federal Reserve began keeping statistics in 1980.

More Records to Come
The stock market has hit all time highs over one hundred times since Trump took office, as you’d expect in an increasing market.


From November 2019:
The U.S. economy has been on fire ever since President Trump’s election.
Today, the Dow Jones Industrial Average hit 28,332.71–meaning it has gained 10,000 points (up 54 percent) since President Trump’s historic election victory in 2016. The S&P 500 has also gained more than 46 percent.

Average hourly earnings also .2 percent month over month and rose 3.1 percent since last year to $28.44. “That marked 18 consecutive months of wage gains above 3%,” writes CNBC.

African-American poverty has declined to the lowest rate ever recorded.
The unemployment rate for women reached the lowest level in almost 70 years. And, last year, women filled 72 percent of all new jobs added.
 
I noticed that no one is saying he isn’t a crook. They all know he is one. They all know he sold the VP office. They all know he has been taking pay offs his whole career.
 
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Joe Biden has been involved in politics for more than 40 years. Can anybody name 2 or 3 things that Joe Biden has accomplished to help Americans most? Or, one thing?
Yes, everything that the US Senate has put into law was done by Joe Biden and his fellow senators over those 40 years…
Right, and Biden has backtracked on pretty much every policy or law that he and “his fellow senators” put into effect over those 40 years. So not even Joe likes what Joe has been responsible for.


So apparently, Joe and his fellow senators have made the country into what it is today and now are promising to remake it because he and a new troop of senators have decided that they no longer want the country they made but something entirely different.

Let’s give him another 47 years so he can at that time revise things according to some other novel plan that will have about the same track record.
 
that they no longer want the country they made but something entirely different

It is not hyperbole to contend that GND is likely the most ridiculous and un-American plan that’s ever been presented by an elected official to voters. Not merely because it would necessitate a communist strongman to institute, but also because the societal costs are unfathomable.

Of course, best case scenario, it is estimated that instituting a top marginal tax rate of 70 percent would raise a little more than $700 billion over that decade. She does not explain how we’re going to raise the other 20 bazillion dollars it will cost to tear down modernity.
 
ou would need to greatly reduce or completely stop using the following…

paper, consumer electronics, detergents, footwear, adhesives, paints, furniture, textiles, pharmaceuticals, food packaging, electronics, insulation, building materials, inks, sports equipment and a variety of other stuff.
One could also avoid vegetarian diet as much as possible. Crops, especially fresh vegetable crops, require an enormous expenditure of energy, and there’s no reasonable replacement for fossil fuels. Cattle, sheep and goats, on the other hand, are low-energy food producers. Poultry, however, require a lot of fossil fuels. So gosh, I guess red meat is the answer. 🙂
 
The Green New Deal boils down to one question: Do you want the government telling you where to live, what kind of car to drive, and what job to take?

This $93 trillion pipe dream would have government dictate nearly every aspect of Americans’ lives, from health care, energy, and food consumption to transportation and housing. It’s a wolf in environmentally friendly sheep’s clothing, giving the federal government unprecedented control over our day-to-day lives—while doing little to improve our environment.

The Green New Deal plans to eliminate the abundant energy resources that are currently the only means to power America. The resolution would mandate a total nationwide switch to renewable energy — despite the fact that wind and solar produce less than 3 percent of our energy needs, even after billions in subsidies.

Blindly accepting the Green New Deal’s renewable narrative would spell disaster for our economy. Even if technology pushes renewable energy to its physical limits, the massive amount of land required for wind and solar farms, and the unreliability of the weather, render those energy resources unsuitable for powering a modern economy.

Imagine an America where our businesses, banks, hospitals, schools, and law enforcement can’t depend on electricity when and where they need it, because the wind doesn’t always blow and the sun doesn’t always shine. Imagine not being able to count on the luxuries we take for granted, like clean water coming out of the tap or keeping our homes warm in the winter.

The Green New Deal would also require literally every building in America to be renovated or torn down and rebuilt.

It would compel Americans to give up their cars and buy new electric ones, or walk or cycle to work. In many cases, this would require families to uproot their lives and move to a city center, whether they want to or not. So much for life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.

 
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In the NSBA’s words: “The impact of regulatory burden cannot be overstated . More than one-third have held off on business investment due to uncertainty on a pending regulation, and more than half have held off on hiring a new employee due to regulatory burdens.”
What regulations are they referring to that are so burdensome? Is this following the tax code, equal employment rules, workplace safety?
 
Well when Biden was VP he sold the office to the highest bidder. He stole other peoples speeches. There are sexual allegations that he sexually assaulted a young lady in 1993. Which many people that have endorsed him believe that happen.
And Trump has no sexual allegations against him? No payments to porn stars either.

Trump hasn’t used his office as President to enrich himself by having events at his own properties, having foreign leaders stay at his properties, had the US military change which airports they use in foreign countries to ones near his properties, so he can enrich himself.

Nope, just look at the other guy, not my guy, he is a saint.
 
Trump hasn’t used his office as President to enrich himself by having events at his own properties, having foreign leaders stay at his properties, had the US military change which airports they use in foreign countries to ones near his properties, so he can enrich himself.
When you have people over to your house, do you charge them money to eat, sleep, play?

I don’t. I end up spending a lot of money to buy and make foods that I know my guests will enjoy, and if they spend overnight time, I do a lot of extra work (or hire a cleaning lady to do the work, which costs me money) to make sure their room is very clean. And if there is some kind of amusement, I spend time making sure that will be entertaining and fun for all in attendance.

Should I have been charging guests all these years? Is that how all you other families do it?
 

When it comes to paying for her programs, while she’s floated the idea of taxing top income earners at 70% (which would bring in only enough money to fund the federal government for less than a week at current levels of spending), she has another idea, simply printing money. Admittedly, this was once also my idea to pay for the government back when I was in the fifth grade. I imagine ignoring the existence of countries like Zimbabwe and Venezuela is required to adhere to the theory.
 
I took an economics class in college in the mid 70s and the teacher described hyperinflation in Latin America in the 1960s. He said that the workers would come to the job in the morning and the workers’ representative had negotiated the morning rate for the workers. They’d work for 4 hours and get paid at lunch. They then would go out and buy stuff with their morning wages before it got devalued further. While they were doing that the workers’ representatives would be negotiating the AFTERNOON rate for the workers. The paper money had become almost useless. I’m worried the same thing might happen here if we do not get our spending under control.

This is a far cry from the concerns of the US government in the first 60 or so years of the republic (I cannot say anything about after that time since I’ve not read anything on the subject). They did everything they could to lower the then current debt.

$1000 for a loaf of bread anyone?
 
I don’t see how Joe ever had a backbone. Being against China in the 90’s was the core position by Union contributors. While supporting increased trade was a smart move to increase political stability and aid developing countries mature.

Now the money comes from foreign govt/businesses and big business that can take advantage of trade differences, they are thus pro unfettered imports. Biden just has a different paymaster than in the 90’s.

Seeking balanced trade as Trump did, is the smart move to rebalance the US economy that veered to far in one direction.

IMHO, Biden has always blown with the wind, never shown real backbone.

https://www.cato.org/publications/commentary/joe-biden-good-guy-without-principle-or-backbone
 
I don’t see how Joe ever had a backbone. Being against China in the 90’s was the core position by Union contributors. While supporting increased trade was a smart move to increase political stability and aid developing countries mature.

Now the money comes from foreign govt/businesses and big business that can take advantage of trade differences, they are thus pro unfettered imports. Biden just has a different paymaster than in the 90’s.

Seeking balanced trade as Trump did, is the smart move to rebalance the US economy that veered to far in one direction.

IMHO, Biden has always blown with the wind, never shown real backbone.
Biden is all about the power. He will make more deals with china to allow them easier access to the US consumer and allow unlimited H1B’s into this country. It is all about wall street with Biden not main street.

That is just the start of it. The American autoworker might as will learn to live off unemployement and min wage
 
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He claimed it would cost $100 trillion, citing one right-leaning think tank’s estimate.

“That’s more money than this country could make in 100 years if things went well,” Trump said. “I mean they literally wanna take buildings down and rebuild them with tiny little windows, little windows so you can’t see the light, you can’t see out.”

One of the key elements of the Green New Deal is a call to use weatherization in order to make homes more energy-efficient.


On Thursday, AOC, flanked by climate activists, vowed that she would make the Biden administration “keep its promises” to deliver a sweeping environmental effort.

“I don’t want anyone here to think we are not winning. We are winning. We are going to secure the tenets of a Green New Deal,” she said.

Directly addressing Biden, Congresswoman-elect Bush of Missouri said the incoming president needed to remember who sent him to the White House.
 
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dodderdly old man
So Trump only has another 3 years until he is just as doddering? He is already so out of touch mentally it is scary, so I guess he is on track for the physical part. Unless of course, as is actually true, age alone is not enough to make those sorts of claims. My mother-in-law is 90 and I would put her mind up against Trump’s any day.
Haaaaaaaa
Did you sprain something? I mean here you are apparently laughing hysterically over something that is demonstrably true, so I wondered if you were having some sort of issue.
 
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